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Building Resilience, Diary Disasters, Going On Retreat & 80s Fashion

• Beth Goodrham

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Building resilience, going on retreat, enjoying 1980s fashion, diary disasters and, of course, more TV recommendations

We dive deep pretty quickly in this episode and talk about building resilience in the tough times; what it looks like when we are in the tough times; what it looks like when our friends and loved ones are in those times; and overcoming our urge to rescue people we love who are struggling and instead joining them in the struggle.  But as ever we don’t stay in the deep waters for too long but come up to the shallows to ponder frilly collars and cuffs, Libby’s diary disasters and the joy of Netflix’s Chesapeake Shores

 
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Hi, I'm Beth, and this is my podcast, A Friend in Your Ear. Friends are so important in our lives. They support us through the good and the bad, the ups and the downs. They give us the space to grow and the grace to fail. They are our biggest cheerleaders when we are our harshest critics. They are not just here for us, but they're here with us. And that's what this podcast is all about, being a friend in your ear. I'm a lawyer turned stylist and fashion blogger who built a successful styling business. And now I work from home running an online business. I spend a lot of time reading books, listening to audio books and listening to podcasts. My favourite podcasts offer me advice, comfort, support, wisdom and fun when my real life friends are busy. And this is a place where I can take what I've learnt and deliver it in a way that hopefully makes your life easier, gives you something to ponder and brings a little joy to your day. Think of this as a chat with a friend, a place where you can come to reminisce for nostalgia, a giggle and a place to find answers to something that might be bothering you. So whether you're out on a run or a walk, on the school run, being a taxi to your kids or grandkids, on a Zoom meeting with your microphone muted or sitting with a glass of something cold in your hand, welcome to the A Friend in Your Ear podcast.

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Hi, and welcome to another episode of a Friend in Your Ear. I'm here with my co-host, Libby, and rather than doing a long introduction, I'm just gonna dive right in lib and ask, how has your week been?

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Well, yeah. I don't know whether you have them and it often happens in threes. I'm not particularly superstitious, but this definitely happened in threes. I got three things very wrong terms of timings and I often, I go through phases of doing this. I got. Quite an important meeting with a very gracious lady. Wrong on the wrong day. I then got another meeting up with a friend again, who's absolutely lovely and totally understood it because I totally misread her text message. And then I told my husband I was coming back. I went up to London to see the netball. I told him my train was getting in at seven and it wasn't getting in at seven until I was leaving Marone at seven. It was getting in at nine, but it when I just felt like. I can't get anything. Right. And so that's what I kind of feel about last week and so far I seem to be getting things. Okay. I think maybe it's just a, like a, you need to read your text messages a bit more carefully, Libby. And I'm not very good with timing, so that was kind of last week, but, and I think sometimes it's good for me to do that because I remember saying to you last week, oh, I've got this meeting wrong, or I feel such a doofus. And you were like. Don't go there. Don't go there. Don't pick up a stick and bash yourself with it. And it's quite good, isn't it? Sometimes that I tend to go down this alleyway of done these things, therefore I'm rubbish. What would Brene Brown say? She'd say, shame drain, Libby. Come outta the shame drain. Instead of going, oh, I kind of cocked up on those timings probably because I'm reading lots of messages. I've got lots going on. Actually, maybe I just need to. Check things a bit more or maybe take things off my list and not to beat myself up about it. And actually one of the people who I got the timing wrong, I was like, I'm not going to over apologize, so I just said, I'm so sorry. And she was like, oh, that's fine. I do it all the time. So it's that giving yourself a break, isn't it? Just because you get a meeting wrong by 24 hours not the end of the world. So. Thought for the day, thought for the week. Message I'm taking away. We all make mistakes. And that's okay. But I am trying to read my text messages a little bit more clearly and check my diary. So there we have it. How about yours, Beth? And can I just say you are rocking a beautiful lady tie blouse today. When I say that, I mean the white one with a little frilly collar, which all my days, I literally came of age in one of those with a blue, I'm gonna call it a tank. Top, but I think it might be your best top. But I absolutely love it. And I just think, let's go back to the eighties because they were good for frill.

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They

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you.

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Well, thank you. Good for pretty blouses and puff sleeves. Leg of sleeves. They, I loved those, but I, I am wearing my little frilly white. Falcon blouse and I've got frilly sleeves and cuffs as well. Liv. And you know what? Because I like you, if you want to borrow it some time to do your own Lady Dye impression,

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yes.

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very welcome

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Oh, you've made my, that's why you, I thought but it was actually'cause I'm sorry.

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because of my frilly cuffs and I've got, I've got, shall I tell you what I'm wearing?

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Talk us through it, please.

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I am wearing my wide leg jeans. This sounds like I'm doing a massive ad for Balcon and I'm not. I just happened to have all balcon on today. Having said that, I do have a discount code, BG Stylist 15. Um, and I, I do really like their fabrics, but I got my loose jeans on because we've been running this morning and I was like, oh, I'll just wear my loose jeans. And then I've got this little pretty top and I'm going out for some food later. So I. I don't know. I think if it was on somebody who's about 25 years younger than me, it would probably look quite cool. But I think I just look like a 95-year-old granny'cause I've got this little frill on. But anyway, IB. So, now let's just talk for a second about your meetings last week, because I think we all have themes of things that we occasionally drop the ball on. And I do seem to recall, which you might not want me to share a story of when you were younger, which involved dropping a little ball. On a certain boss's conference that you were organizing. And so just to say that, not to shame you, but in the context of if ever we get to that stage in life and we say, I'm doing this because I'm getting older, I'm menopausal, I've forgotten this. We sometimes have to look back to the archives to see actually whether it is a pattern for us. One other thing before we come to the story is I always work on the basis that I am wrong. I always assume that I'm wrong about everything, and most of the time I am right that I am wrong. So you can never go far wrong with knowing you're always in the wrong anyway. Liv, are you happy to share a little story?

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I'm very, first of all, I can say that you are wrong about looking 95. There's nothing wrong with looking 95, but you don't look 95. You look great, and I'm right and you are wrong on that. So we'll park that one. Um, my, I had completely forgotten about that, so I think it was one of my first jobs post university and I was working in London as. An assistant to someone, someone very high up in CBI confederation, British industry and I had to book him flights to go to a meeting and um, I booked him flights to go to the meeting. He disappeared off, he phoned me and he such a nice man. He said Hi. I said, oh hi. Can't remember his name. How you getting on? How's the meeting? And. Because the meeting's actually next Tuesday, not today, I just, but this is youth as well, isn't it? I just went, I distinctly remember going, oh, could you just catch up on some airport shopping or something and come home? Not in a cheeky way, but I think, I mean, if that happened to me now, I think I would. Just curl up and I don't know. But yeah, I'm not very good with those dates and times. So actually that's really encouraging. I've always rubbish, but I think it's that whole ability to bounce, isn't it? And just go, yeah, but what a nice man. I didn't get disciplined. I didn't get anything. I really, I did really apologize'cause I did feel really bad. But he was so nice to me and really I was totally inept and should have known better.

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He just liked the weekend away. Perhaps he was having a good time in his little trip. Where? Where did you send him on this flight?

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Uh, it began with b Barcelona, Brussels. I mean, I got the city. I got the city, right? It was just the date. It was just the date.

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Well, it could have been worse, and I'm glad he was nice to you because we've all got to start somewhere, haven't we? And we've all gotta, you know, I.

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like to say it made me check things and it does make me check things, but obviously sometimes not so much like last week.

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Did it? Did it build up any resilience, which was something we wanted to talk about today, wasn't it?

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Yeah, that is a really good shout actually. I was just thinking about that because sometimes when we get things wrong or we feel stress, then it's actually how do we learn from it? We learn from it by being a bit resilient and not letting ourselves go down a massive. Shame drain, don't we? So it's that whole kind of right that's happened. That's not great. I need to apologize or do whatever I need to do, but actually that's okay. Obviously I'm feeling a bit rubbish, but from that place, how am I going to make it better in the future? Whereas I think if we don't have that resilience, it's very hard to then learn from it, isn't it? And I think we are really good nowadays at, acknowledging that things are stressful and anxiety and much, much better at acknowledging our mental health issues. But are we as good as at building resilience and letting things feel uncomfortable? Sometimes we have to sit in the discomfort, don't we? Because that's where we actually learn from.

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Yes.

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Any thoughts on that?

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Deep thoughts on that. There's something that comes with being older and building up resilience that almost makes me go, okay, well bring it on. Because I can pretty much, I think, cope with, I. Most things other than the most hideous things that could happen to your family, which I won't even go into, and that comes through years of having things thrown at us. Earlier. I think I was saying that life sometimes feels like you're just dodging a series of bullets. The older you get is almost like, phew. Made it to the end of the day. Excellent. Uh, but then there's other times that. I almost wait for something. To come along and just think, okay, so how are you going to deal with this one by our grand age, which I will get right this week, 53 is inevitable that we have dealt with many things that have helped to build up those layers of resilience, isn't it? And actually, I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday and her whole world is about to change for various reasons. In terms of where she lives and lots and lots of things, and it would be so easy for her to be totally overwhelmed and totally distressed by what she's facing and actually. I loved the way that she was dealing with this really difficult situation with such courage and such grace, and saying, well, it's up to me to reframe it because this can either take me down or I can see it as a new opportunity to embrace new things and try new things, and it's going to be really difficult in some ways, but in other ways there'll be good things that come out of it. And I was like, whoa, you go, girl, that is so impressive. I had the utmost respect for her and just thinking. Can't we all learn so much from people who take that approach to life. And I sometimes wonder whether, without talking about the younger generation, as if they're snowflakes and things.'cause I don't think that's fair on them, but, but sometimes it's quite easy to fix things for younger kids these days than when we were growing up and it was basically, well, we don't have any money. We don't have much time. There's. Nothing really known about this subject. You're basically just gonna have to get on and figure it out yourself.

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Yeah.

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There's something about that, which is what makes you then build up those layers of resilience, isn't it? Because you've just had to sit, like you were saying, sit in the discomfort, work through it. No one's gonna wave a magic wand. Certainly not for me. Probably didn't even really tell anybody about anything, which I'm not saying is a good thing. But on the other hand, you just kind of knuckle down and struggle on and get through it somehow. And then you pop out the other side and well, who knows whether that's a good thing or not. Maybe it's not. But I do think you do develop lots of layers of resilience by being left to your own devices.

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Yeah, I, I guess it's always kind of that middle thing, isn't it? It's like knowing who you can go and talk to so that the sitting in the discomfort doesn't become so overpowering, but also working your way out of it. I think if we are continually, and as a parent, this is hard, and also as a friend, if we are continually protecting each other from stuff, which is, our innate then we are not letting that person know what it's like to sit in it for a little bit. But if we're sitting in it with them, then they learn what it feels like to sit in a place where I think, well, I don't see a way outta this, or I feel uncomfortable, or My life is changing. Sometimes as a friend, it's like I'm sitting in the pit with you and I'll help you get out of it and let's talk it out. Or, or with children with siblings or whatever it is, as opposed to, oh, I'll come and rescue you outta that'cause I can't bear you to go through that. Sometimes it's saying, I'll do it with you. And I think, yeah, that's, I was just watching this really interesting program about, and it was made actually pre lockdown. So lockdown, all the people got into much more wild swimming, didn't they? Or that's what I feel like it happened. And it's about the swimming, ponds on Hamstead Heath. And there was this lady who was saying, this is, I come and swim here she'd lost her mom and her sister for breast cancer and she'd been diagnosed with breast cancer. And she said, I just. Nobody can make it better, but by swimming in this cold water with these people and just talking, it helped me get through it. And that's the resilience piece, isn't it? That actually I can't be pulled outta this. I've got to learn how to sit in it, but I'm not in it alone. but, but that resilience has to be built. And I think sometimes if we always launch in and rescue people or move them from a place of pain, which is our innate humane response. There's going to come a time when they really need resilience and if we haven't helped them build it up or we haven't built it up ourself, that's gonna be more painful. But you are really good. I think you are really good at reframing stuff often. I come to you for a reframe, I think.'cause it is sometimes getting somebody else's perspective on it, isn't it? And going, I can't see my way out of this.

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And likewise, I'm sure you do the same with me, and thank you for that. That's very kind of you to say it, but it's, yes. I suppose it's, I love that what you say, it's about being. With people. I'm here. I'm here for you, and I'm here with you. Because my natural default is to try and rescue and to make situations better. But I think over the years we both read that book called Listen, didn't We? That was recommended to us and how you listen to people who are really struggling. Not just try and go in and fix everything, but actually listen to what they've got to say because that's how they start to process it and how they start to come up with their own solutions to problems as well. And they're not necessarily there because they want an answer. They just need to the space to talk. It's about holding space for people whilst they process and and articulate what it is that they're going through. That book was really helpful. We should try and link to that in the show notes. I think it's just called Listen and I can't remember who it's by now, but that was. A fabulous book because it even talks about people as they're coming up to their last moments in life and how to deal with that, doesn't it? There were all sorts of different scenarios and then like you say, when it comes to the wild swimming, I read a book about that as well, and there's so many studies that have been done that show how good it is for people, and that's probably partly the shock of the cold water on you. You. You are really mindful when you're cold water swimming'cause you can't think about anything else because it's so freezing. But then there's also the fact that you are with other people. So you've got the social element and then afterwards you get the buzz of the endorphins and the feel, like

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Mm-Hmm.

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feeling that you've achieved something that maybe a lot of people other people wouldn't do. And you have the hot drink and get your warm clothes on. So. It's a lovely, we've done quite a bit of cold water swimming, haven't we? And actually, my, my youngest has come to me recently, said, I really want to go and swim in that waterfall that you and Libby went and swam. And I really want to go and swim in the sea in December thinking, I'm not sure. I'm really fun seeing that anymore. Now you've mentioned it, but yes, let's give it a while. So it's having those people and those activities that somehow help you to process and, and build up the resilience to, to see you through tough times.

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Yeah. Not just taking, not just taking you away from it.

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Yes.

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think different people. Some people are problem solvers, aren't they? But I think if you love somebody, your automatic reaction is to solve their problems, isn't it? Because that's empathy.

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Yes. And I think probably when you're younger it's. It's a case of, oh, well just put your highest heels on and let's get Sloshed and let's go to the nightclub on a Saturday night. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. And distraction is really good because sometimes you do need something to take you out of it, but it's how you sit alongside people, isn't it? And process

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Yes.

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things so that they then come to their own conclusions or they then find a way out of it. Or sometimes there is no. Obvious answer and it's just a question of time and learning to live alongside things. Some things don't ever go away, do they? You just have to learn to live with them and, but even reaching that stage can be freeing because you are not fighting it anymore.

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Yeah, yeah. Oh, golly. We dive deep, didn't we?

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We did, we do dive dove very deep for

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Can I, can I take a light and fluffy and maybe even bordering on inappropriate?

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do.

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what do you think about this? I was in a work meeting it was with all females. It was an online one and. I made a comment about somebody who'd been in another meeting who was male about, please don't judge me about how good looking they were and how, well, it was always nice to have somebody to watch on a meeting. I know. Anyway, so, and we were talking about this earlier, wouldn't it? And I, I came off the call. I thought, oh, ouch. That was quite inappropriate. Had that been manned, that would've been shocking slightly also. Even more inappropriate. I mean, big confession time because my husband works for the same company as I work for. So I was like, was that a little bit dishonoring? What would I have felt? You know, if you'd have said the same about women. So we were having this discussion. Is it okay for a group of women to talk about a man. When we've been fighting for, well, for centuries, haven't we, Beth, you and I centuries fight. Okay. as in women have been fighting for centuries to not be just talked about like that Or is it okay, you know, actually to appreciate the male form? Or is it just okay to have a little bit of chat? I don't, I don't think we came down on either side.

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Well, I think we concluded that you hadn't been inappropriate because the way you would've delivered what you were saying about said, handsome man would've been with such a light touch that it wouldn't have come over. I don't know where I stand on that. I think it's absolutely fine to appreciate somebody of the other sex as being attractive or the same sex, whoever you like to look at and find attractive. That's great. And there are some very nice, handsome men around and sometimes it just lifts our spirits a little bit to, to observe on. But then we come back, like you say to that situation of if this was a man thinking this, I often look at my girls and think, if this was a man saying this about my daughter, how would I feel about that? Is it okay to say, well, there's a, there's a power dynamic there, which is very different with layers of history which is why I find it challenging, but actually the other way round, it's not quite the same, but then you have to come back to anthropological makeup and. We are designed to look at people and find them attractive because if we didn't, the human race would not continue. I don't think you can fight that instinctive. Oh, it's just what you do with it afterwards, and as long as you're not doing anything, which is really terrible towards your husband or completely inappropriate, then.

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yes, yes.

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Somebody that doesn't live too far from me, who on occasion I've seen.

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Yes, yes. It's more what you do, you don't act on it. You just appreciate, it's like I can go into our favorite, house shop called Neptune, the most beautiful shop, and I can appreciate all those things in there, but I'm not going to do anything and steal anything come I,'cause that would be inappropriate. So I'm just trying to think of a, it's okay to like things, isn't it? But I

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Yeah, so it's like going into the bakery and just admiring all the delicious cakes on offer, but going, well, maybe not today that's making it sound like eating cake is bad, which I don't mean at all, but it's just what's the next step here? And I think the next step is to. We'll do what you did and go. I'm very appreciative of the fact that that person was on that call because that made that call quite interesting. And normally those calls aren't graced with the presence of some handsome man.

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Yeah, I think we'll go with that. I think we're both groping for some sort of analogy, and I think we just need to stick with that. I think. Um, yeah. Anyway, it was just something I was thinking about, just but I think yes. I think it's with the light touch, isn't it? What that, what the light touch. I'm feeling slightly inappropriate talking about light touch now, so I think we probably need to move on. But anyway, that was something that we've been chewing over, whether that was appropriate and I think it's all got to come down to a matter of degree, hasn't it? And how you are approaching it and

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Yes, but I will be keeping an eye on you. So if you develop this habit every a week of go, oh, well bear, you'll never guess. Guess who I came across this week? Then we might have to have words. But other than that, I think it's absolutely fine.

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I give you permission to hold me accountable to any of those Yes, shenanigans. Love them. Oh, especially in cold cold, wet, windy January, little spring in your step. A little mini shenanigan. A shenanigan.

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However that may look, as long as it's not harming anybody. I think that's fine. I think what we should do now, because we haven't done this yet, obviously is talk about some rubbish TV that we'll have both been watching.

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you

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we finish on a really light note because let's be brutally honest, I need to get this edited, sorted, and out within a very short space of time, having totally cocked up the one from last week, which will now go out next week. On top of that, I'm out tonight. Can you believe that? I'm actually going out the hermit.

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dog, you're going out having, having a big social life.

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The hermit is coming out of her hermit hole and going out this evening before, oh, lemme, I'm tomorrow. I think you know about this, but let's it anyway.

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on.

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I'm going retreat.

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Oh,

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Which I'm very excited about and I'm learning all about Mary Magdalene, who I don't know a lot about, but I know it's a, I know she's all about feminine energy and tapping into your feminine side, so I'm really looking forward to that. As much as I'm looking forward to learning about Mary Magdalene, one, I'm looking forward to stepping off the world for a day. Which is a lovely thing to do because my friend or our friend who is running the retreat, well two girls who are running the retreat, uh, she has a lovely yoga pod in her garden and I've run a retreat there with her myself, and we're doing another one in a few weeks and I know what it's like to be in that space and I ble and love it, so I can't wait to do that. And lion on a yoga mat with candles and warm blankets and do a bit of journaling as well, and learn all about Mary Magdalene. And two, the food is being provided by a local chef Susie, who is. The most fabulous chef and the food is delicious.

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I'll put

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So

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details in the show notes'cause she's amazing.

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yes, if you live in the Birmingham area, Susie from Artisan Epicurean does the best food, and she will cater all different events, whether it's coming into house to cook, to do big three course meals, or whether she's doing brunches or baby showers or retreat days. Amazing. I dunno, I have absolutely no idea how she does what she does at such a consistently high standard without seeming like she's in a total pickle. I'm really, really stressed. But anyway, she's the calmest of calm, so I'm so looking forward to tomorrow and that's why I'm going out tonight. I'm going to meet the girls beforehand for a little, a little chat tonight. Where was I going with that lib before I talked about the retreat?

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I think. Rubb, but I dunno how we got tomorrow on rubbish tv. Anyway, we are there now, so

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I know because I need to, I need to edit this before I go out tonight.

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yes,

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Rubbish tv. Oh, I've tell you about this. Really terrible. TV program that I watch when it comes in four parts. My belief is it's called the Deceived. I did ask my husband what it was called before I came on this call with you, and he said it was called The Deceased. And I said, I don't think it was called the Deceased. I think it was called The Deceived, but I couldn't quite get the TV on quickly enough to take a look before we needed to jump on this call. Anyway, so I believe it's called the Deceived, and the thing about it that I found really funny. It's worth watching. Let me say it is worth watching, but what I found really funny is it's an adaptation from a book,

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Okay.

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and so it's got that slight Acorn antiques, Victoria Wood, Mrs. Overall Julie Walters feel about it. So when this woman locks the door, which is all a bit like sinister, but not really. You know that in the book it said she locked the door and gave a smile, so she turns and looks over her shoulder and gives this smile.

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Oh, kind of, kind of. And then pauses to camera for a little bit longer than she should do with her for mentioned rice. My, oh, I love it. And then do you kind of like have a boom or a big light in the background that.

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And you can tell that there's a scene where sort of, and this isn't giving too much away, but, but the wife has died and that the new lady walks down the stairs in the dead wife's clothes, which when you're reading it in a book.

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Yeah.

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Is kind of, you know, your imagination goes yes, but when you see it on a screen, you just look at it and think you have so lifted that from the book and tried to translate it onto the screen and it looks ridiculous. And you can almost see where one chapter ends and a new chapter starts.

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Oh, my day. You kind of think the screenwriter was like highlighted in the book. These are the bits that we need to bring out and then literally just lifted, oh, is it Netflix or what?

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Yes, it's on Netflix. It's four parts. We watched three parts in one go because we actually had an evening where we were on our own in the house, so we watched some high quality TV

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I've

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and.

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ironing to do, so that is gonna be with my ironing,

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That's do with your ironing, but that's really it for me and TV this week so over to you. You normally have some quality TV that you've been watching?

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well, the day has come, I have run out of Pelo Tech.

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No.

squadcaster-e088_1_01-25-2024_141607:

I'm probably gonna become a lot more, um, what's the word? Productive around the house and work and yeah, the day has come, I think a new series is being dropped, I think is what they say in March, but. might not get into it. So I'm at a little bit of a loss. I'm swimming around, which is why I then picked on this program about pond swimming, which I thought, Hmm, interesting. And they just said a few things that were really, thought, really interesting about nature and about. said, oh, it's kind of my religious place in water. And I just found that really interesting from a, what does that mean? So I'm gonna watch a bit more of that because it's just really interesting about the power of cold water, the power of being, I think. Grounded in nature, and I think that's what the cold order is,'cause it kind of strips everything away. So I'm gonna watch a bit more of that because I literally was just watching it while I was having my lunch and all of a sudden my brain just started pinging off and I found it really moving. You know, sometimes when you can find things quite moving and

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What was it called? Can you tell us what it's called and where we find it?

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I can, it's. It's something like the Ponds or swimming the ponds, and it's like kind of a documentary. It was May, 2018. I've never seen it before. And sometimes when you just see these random things and they really kind of make you think or whatever, you really have to go with it, don't you? And go, well, maybe that's landed in my lap for a reason. So that, I mean, literally you can get more of a contrast from Below Deck, but I'm gonna go with it. Um

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Involved. You know the other one, I was thinking about this the other day, Chesapeake.

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Chesapeake? Yes.

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I

squadcaster-e088_1_01-25-2024_141607:

well that's one. If you haven't come across that. That is the funniest. funniest

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Most awful.

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a family in America, obviously. And they live in this kind of real oldie American. We didn't realize there actually was a place called Chesapeake Shores, did we? Until you'd saw it somewhere.

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Yeah.

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which shows our ignorance and it's about a family and there's 5, 4, 5 children.

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Lots of children aren't there?

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children. And there used to be an Irish granny who was absolutely hysterical because think they were, just so kind of typecast and she'd have a normal American accent, wouldn't she? And then she'd literally finish off to be sure. So it was like kind of, but Chesapeake Shores is a good little watch, isn't it? It was just a good heartwarming watch, but lots of unanswered questions I felt.,

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There's a lot of joining the dots for oneself really, isn't it? But it was lighthearted. I'd quite often have it on when I was working. I think I used to have it on at a time when I wasn't feeling that great. And it was almost like background noise. And in fact, it was quite interesting when I was thinking, when did you watch this? And I think it was Covid and just after Covid. And looking back, I remember thinking, oh, I don't feel great at the moment. I'm going to have something on in the background that I find really calming and soothing and slightly inane. And there's many series of it, and it's a good sign to me now that I don't feel the need for that anymore. But sometimes it's quite difficult to measure how far you've come or why. And for me, not needing Chesapeake Shores is a result.

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So when you were building resilience and in time in your pit was Chesapeake Shores. I like that's power of television.

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Was there with me holding my hands.

squadcaster-e088_1_01-25-2024_141607:

Yes. The other thing I watched again, but I think I mentioned this last week, really like it is the tennis program. So we watched a bit more of the tennis program called breakpoint on Netflix, and that was really good. But I'm going away next week, just me and my husband and in the evening, I'm hoping we might catch up on a few more series finish at last. Doubt me once, is that what we called it?

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No, no. Fool me once.

squadcaster-e088_1_01-25-2024_141607:

Call me once. I'm hoping to finish the end of that and finish the end of break point. So hopefully, and start something else. So maybe when you next kindly invite me on your podcast, I'll have more to say.'cause I feel I, I let you down on the TV front and I intend to remedy that.

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I don't personally feel let down, but if you feel it's your duty to find more TV for us to watch, then I'm argue with you. And likewise, I should try harder as well, lib and find.

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Yes. I think, I think this is our duty. Build resilience and get our shi shoveler out. Come on, let's do it.

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And on that note.

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On that bombshell.

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We still wish you all a lovely week. We hope to be back next week. Although lib, if you are skiing, I'm not quite sure how we're going to manage that, but we'll find a way.

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find a way.

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We'll find a way to make it happen. We're resilient. We are intelligent. We are

squadcaster-e088_1_01-25-2024_141607:

we

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run outta adjectives.

squadcaster-e088_1_01-25-2024_141607:

Yes, we can sit in the pit and sit on the piece together. Did you see what I did there? Double P anyway?

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I like that. And don't forget your snack bag. That's what I always do to my kids before they go skiing. You can fill your pockets and everything, with as much sugar as you need. Because if you're going to get caught in an avalanche overnight,

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need

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need to know you've got 50,000 miles bars to see you through.

squadcaster-e088_1_01-25-2024_141607:

Yes, although my husband prefers Titan, which is the Aldi version, so I have to go to Aldi and get him Titan bars. I just quite like the idea that he's got Titans in his pockets.

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Oh,

squadcaster-e088_1_01-25-2024_141607:

I know.

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well that's a new one on Nate. Why does he prefer them outta interest?

squadcaster-e088_1_01-25-2024_141607:

I, he just does, he goes, can you get bars instead? And, so yeah, and in fact we have a friend whose daughter works Brownie, so I must pass actually. He prefers the Titan bars.

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You just want a load of freebie bars for your husband.

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Titan. Very good. Do you think that'll get picked up?

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We can try.

squadcaster-e088_1_01-25-2024_141607:

I can try.

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Well, lovely to be here again with you this week, and we look forward to seeing you again soon. Have a fabulous week, and if you have any topics that you would like us to cover in a deeper, meaningful way or any terrible TV that you would like to share with us, then please do let us know because we're always up for a little bit of terrible tv.

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Always, bye.

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Bye.

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