The Hysterectomy Chronicles - How To Prepare, What To Expect & Recovery Tips

Hello! The purpose of this episode is to offer you help and advice if you're facing a hysterectomy, or to help you to support a friend, or family member, who is. During the episode I share with you how my hysterectomy came about, what my hospital stay looked like and what the recovery time is like afterwards. 
 
I had a lot of messages on Instagram from people saying that they were worried about their upcoming op as they don't know what to expect, or they weren't sure whether to have it done now, or in the future. So I thought I'd share my experience in the hope that it might offer even just a little bit of help or reassurance.  

I've also got a series of upcoming episodes to talk you through the things you can do from your bed; whether you're laid up because you've had a hip replacement operation, or a  bunion removed, or some other kind of surgery.  I think there's that feeling that we're not going to be able to do anything or achieve anything. And for sure, whilst there are times where it is absolutely true, it's amazing what you can actually achieve lying down It's amazing how far forward you can go even when you've been brought to a grinding halt and I'll be sharing those ideas with you. 

Transcript

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Hi girls, I hope that you're well. It's a long time since I've made a podcast episode but I wanted to share with you what's been going on recently because for those of you who don't know, in the middle of September I had an abdominal hysterectomy and This episode, or the purpose of this episode, is just to share with you how it came about, what kind of happens during that procedure, and then what the recovery time is like afterwards. I've also got a series of upcoming episodes just to talk you through the things you kind of can do from your bed, whether you're laid up because you've had a hip replacement or operation on a bunion or some kind of surgery. Because I think there's that feeling that we're not going to be able to do anything or achieve anything. And for sure, whilst there are times where it is absolutely true, it's amazing what you can actually achieve from your bed and when you've stopped. It's amazing how far forward you can go even though you've stopped. But like I say, the purpose of this episode is just in case there's one out there who's got a hysterectomy operation coming up and they're not sure what to expect. I've had lots of messages on Instagram, people saying that they are a bit worried about it, they don't know what to expect, they don't know whether to have it done now, they don't want to take the plunge at the moment. I just thought I'd share my experience and it is only my experience, that's all I can talk to. In case it offers some little bit of help, some inspiration, some reassurance. One thing that I've really noticed is the amount of women who've got in touch with me who've already had a hysterectomy operation and said how it's the best thing they've ever done. And I thought that was really interesting. They've... Not always being specific, so I kind of want to know what it is about it that makes them feel it's the best thing that they've ever done. But, whether it's, you know, maybe they were bleeding heavily before and they're not anymore, which is an obvious reason and an obvious way in which you're going to feel better. Or whether it's something to do with having more energy, or... I don't know, hormones, but there's so many women who've said, Oh, I feel so much better having had it done. And I guess, you know, we don't just have these things done on a whim. So usually there is a problem in the run up to it, which then hopefully gets solved by having the hysterectomy. So that would make sense. I'm interested to see how that works out for me, because I can't really say that I had any problems. But just winding the clock back a little bit, what I can share with you is that A while ago, probably 18 months or so ago, I was just having a little bit of bleeding that I felt I perhaps shouldn't have been having, so I went to see my GP and there's a pathway if you have post menopausal bleeding, I don't know whether it was post menopausal bleeding or not, but anyway. So I was sent down to the women's hospital in Birmingham. Now the thing about Birmingham is there are lots and lots of doctors here so the chances are that you're going to bump into somebody that you know down at the women's hospital and certainly if you walk along our high street there's quite a strong chance that quite a few of the people that you walk past will have had their head up your foofy bits at some point whether that's because you've had a baby or for So it's all very like that around here. And as it transpired, the chap who was examining me actually lives over the road from me. Although, I hadn't seen him before, and I haven't seen him again, and I'm not sure I'd recognise him, even if I did bump into him. Anyhow, so I went down to the hospital, and I had an ultrasound scan, and they were scanning me to see what was going on, and they said, well actually we can't really see anything because you've got some really big fibroids in there. And I was like, okay, fair enough, whatever. And so they said, You can go and have an examination. So I was referred to my chap, who it transpires was my neighbour, to have an examination. And he examined me and just said in a fairly sort of matter of fact, fairly casual way, Oh yes, you've got some really big fibroids there. It's quite likely that you're going to have to have a hysterectomy at some point. Of which I took absolutely no notice and thought, what on earth are you talking about? Sorry, chap who lives across the road. I was like, don't be ridiculous, there's nothing wrong with me. My mum had had a hysterectomy as it transpires because of fibroids, which I'm not sure I really knew at the time. But she'd been quite ill beforehand and I was like, but I'm fine, there's nothing wrong with me. Fibroids are fine, we don't need to worry about those. So I just kind of put it to the back of my mind. I don't know whether... It was just too big a thing for me to comprehend or whether I was just like, well you don't know what you're talking about and that's not going to be an issue. And then, so that was all fine. They couldn't see anything, couldn't find anything. And then, a little while later, I had quite a Pain sort of pains on both side of where I thought my ovaries might be. So again, I went off to the doctor, I left them for months and months and then thought, you know what? You've got to the point now where you probably ought to get this looked at. So chatted off to my GP and they said, We're going to refer you to the women's hospital. This needs to be looked at. I said, okay. So I go down to the women's hospital. Love everybody at the women's hospital in Birmingham. Have to say big shout out to everyone in the Birmingham women's hospital. And had the scans and they were like, no, we really can't see anything this time because those fibroids are now two centimetres bigger than they were this time last year. I was like, okay, that's not so great, is it? And then I was referred for. an examination. So I go for my examination and I have my examination and the doctor says to me, well, your uterus is the size of somebody who is 16 weeks pregnant. And I thought, Hmm, that accounts for quite a lot. I wondered why my tummy seemed to be sticking out quite a lot. And I was like, okay, well, I don't mind 16 weeks pregnant when I am 16 weeks pregnant, but when I'm not. Not so great. That wasn't the reason for the hysterectomy, but I was talked through all my options, where this might go, how it might turn out, and ultimately the choice was really left to me as to whether I had it done now or whether I delayed it and was monitored and then maybe had to have it done in the future. And there were various reasons that I thought now is probably a better time to have it done. So I made that choice to go ahead with the hysterectomy. I was told at that point in time that it wouldn't be able to be done by keyhole because the size of my uterus was bigger than a baby's head. So there was no way it was going to come out the usual route, I say in inverted commas because I have also had a cesarean as well, um, but it wasn't going to come out. I was going to have to have an incision, but I'd already had a caesarean 15 years ago, so I could be unzipped and everything could be taken out that way, which was really rather handy. So anyway, the date comes through for me to have the operation. I have to say that in between times it did take me a little bit of a while to get my head around the thought of not only the operation itself, which I knew would mean that I couldn't run for at least six weeks, that I'd be off my feet, that I couldn't drive, that I couldn't... do anything of my usual life, which obviously is a bit of a big one to get your head around, but also the fact that my baby's home wasn't going to be with me anymore and that not only had it been my baby's home as they were growing inside me, but I'd had it since the day I was born and I wasn't quite sure how I felt about that. It wasn't so much, you'll be less of a woman without or All that gubbins going on, but it was just a little bit emotional to think that it wasn't going to be there anymore. So, I did what I often do in this situation and take counsel from my very wise eldest daughter and said, Look, I feel like a bit of a failure as a mum because I'm not going to have your home anymore. And Flo Blesser, who's 24, just looked at me Mum, I don't need you to have that anymore. But I do need you to have two arms to give me a hug, so you know what? If you're going to lose anything, I'd rather it be the home that I don't need anymore and that the rest of you was whole. And I was like, yeah, that's my girl. Let's run with that. I also went on a retreat in May and I've done a podcast episode about that. I can't remember if it's episode maybe 13 or 14 and it was something that I talked about then because that was when I first became aware that I was really going to have to have it done. And there were definitely some tears shared and we thought about trying to... Get my womb back from the hospital afterwards and having a little ceremony and doing something around that which I'm still looking into at the moment So there were various ways that I processed the fact that I was no longer going to have my womb and at the same time You know recognizing how lucky I was that there was Nothing sinister involved and that I was going to be healthy again and that I would be well looked after and so on and so forth So, anyway, having done the May retreat and having thought about it a bit more and having got my head around it, I just thought, all that I can do at the moment, the only thing that I can control about this is just putting myself in as good a position as I can before I have surgery, in terms of being as fit as I can, being flexible, being a healthy weight, making sure that my diet has been good, that's all I can do so that my recovery goes as quickly as possible. I've never smoked, I don't really drink, I don't take drugs, they weren't going to be an issue for me, but the only thing I could control, and not in a really obsessive kind of way, but looking at the situation as a whole, there were so many things that were outside of my control and nothing that I could have anything to do with, the only thing I could do was take responsibility for making sure my health was good and buying myself a new pair of Crocs when I went into hospital. And that was pretty much about it, as well as, you know, seeing friends beforehand, seeing family beforehand. That, that was it really, I just had to surrender to it and go with the flow and make the most of it. So the date came, and in the run up to it, I did one of my last long runs, which I put on Instagram, and then I rocked up to hospital the next morning, had to be there at 7. 30 am. I'd already had an MRI scan to make sure that there was... It's nothing that looked as if it was a little bit questionable and that was all fine. So I went into it knowing that hopefully it, it should all be okay. And I was put on a ward with some lovely ladies. We had really nice chats before we went down to surgery. I was given a pair of support stockings. My calves were measured. I was given some support stockings. So I popped those on. They were nice and warm. I had a window seat, so I had a bed near to the window, so I could look out of the window. Over the Birmingham Women's Hospital, I know it super well. I ran past that all the time. I had my three children there. I could see where I used to pick my son up from school. He used to get dropped off at the train station and walk through the hospital and I would meet him. So, it all felt very familiar, it felt very nice. Everyone on the ward was great. The nurses came round, they were fabulous. They took my pulse and just said, We can't believe how relaxed you are. And actually I wasn't stressed at all. Again it was just that deep breathing, surrendering, trusting that it was going to be okay. So I wasn't anxious. I'd got a new little nightie from M& S. I'd popped that on. I'd got little cardi to keep me warm. I'd got, got my stockings on. People were messaging me. Are you okay? How's it going? And I eventually went down. About midday ish, I think it was, so there was a bit of time in between me going into hospital at 7. 30. My husband just had to drop me at the desk. He wasn't allowed to see me onto the ward. I had to toddle off on my own with my bag. I unpacked everything, got myself set up. Hubby had to leave. The few hours in between, I was nil by mouth at that stage. Don't remember being hungry, don't remember being thirsty, that was all fine. Went down to outside the operating theatre to have the anaesthetic. I had a spinal and then I had the general anaesthetic and I remember speaking to my surgeon beforehand and she said, we're hoping that we're going to be able to do a horizontal cut in through your caesarean scar but we might have to go vertically. So I was like, oh, okay, well, let's just see how this goes. I remember having the spinal and thinking, this is a little bit unpleasant. It was quite cold and I could feel it. So in my head, I just took myself off to where I always go when something not very nice is happening in the dentist chair or whatever. And I'm running along the canal. Outside of Birmingham, I know exactly where I'm going. I concentrated on that. The next thing I know, I'm waking up. It's all been done. All been done. And I'm in the recovery room, having a lovely chat to the nurses. Cannot remember what I was talking about now. Probably utter, utter gibberish. I mean, I don't know whether that's the fact that I'd just come around from an operation, or the fact it was five weeks ago nearly and I can't remember, or the fact I just talk gibberish most of the time. But anyway, I do remember it was a nice chat. It was a very nice chat. So, and I remember the nurse saying to me, there's a button there for you to press, there's morphine in that, so whenever you need it, just press the button. You are not going to overdose, that's fine. So I'd got a catheter in, I'd got a drip, I'd got the morphine, I'd got a little oxygen thingy at my nose, and I'd got an oxygen clip attached to the end of my finger. So I was pretty wired for sound. I wasn't going to be going anywhere, I was very much in the bed, not about to leap out and around and go off anywhere, and I remember pumping the morphine button from time to time. I wasn't massively uncomfortable, I have to say. You know, I'd got a lot of anaesthetic in me and a lot of morphine in me. And then I was taken back to the ward. And after that, it's all a little bit of a blur. I do remember that the morphine made me very itchy all over. Uh, although I, I didn't really feel a lot, a lot of itch until the next morning. So I think I was back on the ward by about three o'clock. I think my husband came to see me that night. Can't remember whether a friend did or not. I don't think so. Um, so I was itchy and it also made me nauseous and it did make me sick once. So the following morning when I realized that it was the morphine that was making me. I feel nauseous and also itchy. I dispensed with that and out of a hundred pumps, I'd had 37. So I hadn't had a huge amount and I probably could have had less, but I don't think I really knew what I was doing. And so after that I was just on painkillers. It's not morphine, but paracetamol and Brufen and diclofenac, I think. And it was a little bit uncomfortable the next day. The most uncomfortable thing actually was, because obviously going in and furtling around, your bowel gets moved around, and the most uncomfortable thing was the wind that that generated. Far more so than the actual incision, which was about, or is about, 10 to 12 centimetres long, I think. And there's a stitch from the inside, so there's nothing that you can see from the outside. I stayed in hospital, so I had the operation Friday lunchtime, back on the ward by about three o'clock on Friday. I stayed in Friday night, Saturday night, came home Sunday lunchtime. I remember that first night, it was... a full moon and it was very clear and I could see the stars and I was by the window it was quite warm and I think that's the night that everything about Russell Brand hit on the internet so that and I was awake in the night I didn't sleep through the night I was awake but I was perfectly happy just reading what was going on in the world it all seems a little bit surreal now on the Saturday it was more about trying to get out of bed after the catheter had been taken out and after I'd been unhooked from everything, which probably wasn't until about lunchtime. My husband came in to see me, my friend came in to see me, and it was a question of trying to get everything moving really, so that I could come home on the Sunday, which is what ultimately happened. And I was sent home My HRT was increased, so I was on 75mg before my op, that was increased to 100mg, so I was given another extra little patch, so I've got double patches at the moment, I've got one on each cheek, and some iron tablets because my iron was a little bit low, and a bottle of latulose to go alongside that. I have to say when I got home, I fairly quickly dispensed with the iron tablets. I don't particularly like those and I'm due to have a blood test on Monday which will be six weeks, almost six weeks, not quite six weeks actually, after the op just to see what my blood levels are like. So that was it in terms of the procedure. Bit of time before you go down to theatre, or in my case anyway, spinal, general. Go to the recovery room, come back to the ward, wired for sound, have a bit of tummy ache from wind, morphine not great personally for me. Not too much pain and sit back and relax because there's nothing else you can do frankly What I had taken in with me which was some tips from other people who'd had a hysterectomy was I had and you might want to make a note of these if This is coming your way anytime soon There's some long charging cables so that I could just, you know, charge my phone and it could still reach me, which is handy when I was awake in the middle of the night. When I'd had my third child, I was given a Cath Kidston vanity case, which actually was brilliant for taking into hospital because I could have it. On my little tray table that was over the bed and it's sturdy enough to hold everything It's got little pockets in the edge on the inside So in my little pockets i'd arranged it and kind of memorized what was in each pocket So if all I could do was reach into it, I knew where things were. So in one pocket I had things like an eye mask and I had some ear plugs and then in another pocket I had a toothbrush and some toothpaste and some face wipes in case I just wanted to give myself a little bit of a wipe and then in another pocket I had some homeopathic arnica tablets and some rose oil just in case I wanted to rub that in and in another pocket I had some snacks. And I also had some highlighter pens in there for some reason. I think it's because I'd taken a bit of work in with me, actually, that I thought I might want to highlight. And then in the centre compartment, I'd got some books, I'd got some headphones. That was a really good tip, actually. Just on the way out of the door, my daughter gave me some plug in headphones, which was great because for some reason, my Bluetooth ones weren't working. Sometimes you have to go back to basics a bit. So, the old fashioned way. worked really well so that I could listen to things. So actually, I felt really nicely organized and contained with this vanity case on my table. I couldn't get out of bed, so I couldn't have got anything from my bedside cabinet. I had to have everything really, really close by, so that was great. That worked. Very well. The other thing that I was told to do was to wear a nightie Just because it makes it for easier access for the catheter and so on Which I did and my stockings kept me really nice and warm. Oh that first night I just remembered You're plugged into these things that are wrapped around your legs and they inflate and deflate to keep the circulation going So they were quite fun. I'd forgotten about those They didn't matter. They didn't bother me at all. Didn't mind having those on there. So, yes, that was another reason that I really was stuck into the bed. So then we get to the stage where I come home, which was on the Sunday afternoon. And I remember coming in the door, I'd managed to do a couple of little walks up and down the corridor before I came home. Very, very sore. You know, very protective of everything. I'd got some Asquith Yoga Bottoms. Sadly, Asquith don't exist anymore, which is a real shame, but I made sure that I just wore really soft things so that there was because obviously I was a bit swollen. And I didn't want anything to catch on my scar, which at that point still had a dressing on it. So I just wore really comfortable bottoms, warmer Crocs. I could bend down, you know, I could bend down fine and do shoelaces up when I went out for a walk later on in the week, but I just needed to make it really, really easy for myself. Didn't carry anything. Came in, came to bed, and pretty much stayed there for all of Sunday and then the next few days. Consumed a lot of television during that time. Lot of Virgin River, lot of the Murdoch Mysteries. I'm probably, at some point, will do an episode that includes TV to watch right now. I really just took the doctor's advice to make sure that I rested. And rested and rested. I didn't do a lot of sleeping in those first few days. You know, I slept well at night. Kept on top of my painkillers. But I didn't really sleep in the day. But I did rest a lot. And actually, I would say it's only today, which is almost five weeks in, that I feel comfortable sitting up. I've definitely felt better lying flat on the bed or being upright. But I'm not allowed to be upright for too long. So that has meant that the thought of sitting up and typing emails or working has been really hard but it's amazing how much you can actually do lying flat in your bed and I will definitely talk about that at some point like I said. So in terms of the things that I did and what my recovery has looked like, on the Monday, or the Tuesday I think it was, I did go out for a walk with my husband. To start off with, I had to hold on to people and I literally just walked, I don't know, 100 metres and back and it was horrible. Really, it felt quite grim because, you know, three days before I'd run 10 miles or 12 miles without it being a problem and there I was, I could barely walk out of my front door and a little bit around the, down the road without having to hold on to someone and be doubled over. And then I'd have friends come and take me out and I'd have to hold on to them. We're really lucky we've got lots of benches around where we live. And so we'd walk a little way and we'd sit on the bench and have a chat. The weather was quite nice so that was good. Then we'd walk a little bit further and we'd sit and have a chat. I'm walking a little bit further, sit on a bench and have a chat, but I was just doing very, very short distances. It was literally, virtually nothing those first few days, because I just knew that I had to take it so easy. And I think everybody kept saying to me, you mustn't do too much. They know that I like to get out and move, but I knew that that long term was not going to help. So I've probably been The perfect patient in that sense. I think you'd have to ask my husband that actually. It's probably not fair to say that I have been the perfect patient but in terms of not pushing things I haven't done too much. So I didn't go out anywhere properly until a week after my op when my friend kindly took me to Neptune because Neptune is a brilliant place to go because there's so many sofas. So you walk in the door and sit down on a chair. Then you do a few more steps and sit on another one. I could walk upstairs to go and look at all the showrooms up there. So that trip to Neptune. was great i almost felt a little bit more normal the other things that i did after that in no in no particular order and we're not you know they were nice but we did the neptune trip i had parents evening again that was pretty good because i could keep sitting down to Chat to the teachers. Then I did a trip out for brunch. I mean, I couldn't drive, but my friends were taking me. So we went out for brunch. And then just did a tiny, tiny little walk. So it was just interspersed every few days with a little trip somewhere, and then rein it back in a couple of days in bed, and then a little trip somewhere. Rain it in, couple of days in bed. And I gradually tried to build up my walking, just checking in and googling and making sure that I wasn't doing too much each time. And that's really how my recovery has looked in the last five weeks. It's been a case of doing a little bit and then resting. Doing a little bit more and then resting. Doing something creative and then resting. Doing something social and then resting. And lying in bed, watching TV. listening to some courses, I'll tell you more about those in due course, lighting candles in the bedroom, just making it feel a really lovely environment. I have had the best care from Mr G who has cooked me incredible meals, not once has he ever complained about getting me a drink or doing the washing or the food shopping or cooking for me or doing lifts for the kids. Not once. So I owe him big time. I'm not sure I could have been quite as good and generous about all of that. Um, but... That is something that has been amazing. I've been given the time and the space to recover. I haven't felt the pressure to recover. I very much took a conscious decision to step back from everything. I didn't look in my inbox for four weeks. I kind of set it up beforehand a little bit so that if I thought there were people who would need me they could get in touch with my husband, but I figured there wasn't going to be anything that urgent. Or if so, that I just needed to give myself the mental space. I wasn't on Instagram. I think I did one post just to let people know I was okay. I didn't look at Instagram. I didn't do anything like that because I just knew that any energy that I had had to go towards getting better. And I know this podcast has been all about me and sounds really selfish in some ways but you know as women it's not often that we just totally prioritize What we're going to need and I knew that I had so little energy and only so much energy to spend during the day that I had to be really, really, really careful how I spent it. And one of the things that was really important to me as soon as I was able to was to get up, get showered, get dressed, put some makeup on and do my hair. And if that's what I could achieve in a day, that was okay. And I didn't do it every day and I didn't do it to start off with. It took me. You know a good probably five days to get to the stage where I was starting to do that And I didn't do it first thing in the morning. It might be at lunchtime It might be later than lunchtime, but that was my one aim every day Was to do everything that I've just said because it just made me feel more like me. So I think it's really helpful to Identify something that is going to make you feel more like you so it was it was doing that It was trying to see people when I could even if they sat in the bedroom and chatted to me It was lighting a candle It was having some flowers in the bedroom just to make my environment as nice as it was and luckily the TV provided plenty of entertainment in those first few weeks before I was in a position to start to start doing other things. So I think that kind of brings us up to the present date and where we are in terms of what the recovery looks like. I don't think it's been anything like I anticipated. I don't think I probably knew what to expect because it's not often that we have That time where we just can literally do nothing. The last time it was like that was after having a cesarean, and I do remember thinking at the time, you know, the fact that I took six weeks to really recover from that, and was given the time and space to do so, meant that I didn't have any problems. So I, that was the only experience I've had of it, and I figured it might be something similar. And it has turned out to be that way. Um, and there's lots of life lessons I've learnt along the way. In some ways, at the moment, I feel a little bit like I'm in no man's land because my old life seems a really, really long way away to the point that I can't remember it, but the future hasn't yet arrived in the way I'd like it to. So, I do feel a little bit at sea sometimes because I can't quite imagine the day where I'll be able to go and run any distance, let alone 12 miles. or a marathon. I can't imagine the day where I can be on my feet all day, whether that's going on a day trip to London or going around the shops or just being around the house and on my feet all day. I just can't quite imagine that yet but my guess is that slowly, slowly it will start to happen and the process can't be rushed. I appreciate that everything needs to knit together so that it doesn't all fall out of where we don't want it to fall out of. And that can't be rushed. All I can do is eat well, rest plenty, not be on my feet too much, not bend over too much and not jiggle everything about too much, and not iron or lift a kettle or a saucepan or go shopping for a while, which, you know, comes with its benefits. So on that note, I will love you and leave you. If you're in the process of being about to go in for a hysterectomy, you think it's something that might be coming down the line towards you. If you've got any questions. Come and find me, come and find me on Instagram at Beth Goodrum. I'm very happy to answer any questions that you've got there. And in answer to one of the big questions that I have, which sounds really shallow and really vain, my, one of my biggest thoughts was, is my stomach actually going to go down after I've had this flipping great big 16 week, or you know, uterus size thing taken out of me? And it did. And it wouldn't have mattered if it hadn't. But sometimes you just can't quite imagine what things are going to be like. And, and I looked down after the opera, and when I stood up for the first time a couple of days later, I was like, oh lordy me, that doesn't look like me. In many ways it doesn't look like me. But this little, this little baby belly protrusion had gone, which was quite nice. I mean, it may well come back in a different form, but for now, it's toddled off. Um, so yes, that's it for now, ladies. I shall love you, leave you, hope that you're all well, and I'm doing this from my bed so I hope it's recorded. I hope it doesn't sound too bad. I'm not going to do loads of editing because I don't have the energy and I'd rather move on getting some more podcast episodes recorded so hopefully if it's a bit wonky in place if there's some ums and some ahs and I've used the wrong words I just trust that you know what I'm trying to say and I trust that you'll give me the grace to get it all around my neck and not hold it against me. So on that note I'm sending you lots of love and I hope to be back again. with you sometime really soon. You take care, lots of love and bye for now. This is the place where I say all of the things which I should have said during the podcast episode, but which I forgot. So first of all, thank you so much for joining me today. 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